Iāll be honest. I was the one who initially recommended Thanatos for the map rotation. However, while I do still like the map, I have met almost nobody else who shares the same feeling. Furthermore, while it was a semi-popular map for GPP in scrims and in pubs, the gameplay on the map does not translate as well to 1.1.
So, while I disagree with the sentiment, I agree with removing Thanatos from the rotation.
Recommend a good map for 1.1 vanilla game play to replace Thanatos with in that range of the rotation (that is not atcs nor atcs based). (Iām not saying at this point so far that it will be removed from the rotation).
There is more than enough atcs in rotation 2, but for some bizarre reason bird votes for atcs ALWAYS pass, so having 1 more ATCS in the rotation is not worth it when bird plays, because its a constant ATCS playing anyways .
Iāll search for an ATCS like map to recommend, right now I can only think of one but Iām sure the majority is going to turn it down.
Replace it with atcs.
In factā¦ replace all of the āāatcsāā maps with the default version.
In fact in factā¦ Change the rotation to only acts when there are less than or equal to 10 players in the server. Two verse three with five specs on any other map is terrible.
Personally I donāt hate it, nor do I like it. I think its okay. Its decently sized for both teams (humans love big spaces where aliens love small spaces with walls blocking off visibility), both bases has atleast 2 ways to get inside and its not ATCS. Thats decent in my book.
Iām not too keen on having less maps, though I do understanding culling the ones that a server doesnāt need. Perhaps if someone is willing to explain why Thanatos is cancerous, it would be easier to have an opinion about it.
Thanatos is quite OK with my opinion, because that building is pretty like it with moving pistons and piston sounds, but some people said really donāt like this mapping, and I donāt know how I can to do the decision, so I choose give up for voting it and Iām neutral.
That is a biased poll, with no options for having Thanatos remain on the server nor a neutral option, with only 9 votes, hardly anywhere close to ā100% of the server and forum populationā. I can get more votes than that to remove atcs from the rotation on GrangerPub, that doesnāt mean I should nor would remove ATCS from GrangerPubās rotation based on such votes.
Was that from a single poll 30 second poll vote? How many unique players voted in that poll? What time of day did that poll take place? How many unique players were on the server? How many of those players even noticed such a poll?
@Hero , what about that? I have not seen any arguments that address in the detail the quality (or lack there of) of the map Thanatos on the GrangerPub server. I have played the map many times on GrangerPub, I donāt see a deficit in its quality from my personal experiences that would warrant its removal. If you do, then make a thorough enough case about its quality (or lack there of), more than just saying that it is bad/cancerous/etc, give reasons, because not everyone has the same opinion.
It should be the other way around. If a map is to get into the rotation, it should be a good, popular map that is relatively balanced, given its size. Personally, I think a thorough case should be made for why it (and every other map) should be kept in the rotation.
Iāve been saying for months that the rotation needs to have maps removed, and Iāve given you lists several times. If another thread is created then we (as a community) can identify maps to keep in the rotation.
How would āgoodā and āpopularā be determined? In the case of Thanatos, none of the individuals advocating its removal even mentioned anything about balance, nor pointed out any reasons for the map being unbalanced, if it is as such.