Why ATCS?

[dGr8LookinSparky]

@DarkMicrobe

who can be pounced down and poisoned, can you do that on karith, you know? the one with the insane outside area where any competent human is immortal until rc goes down elsewhere?

It is possible to pounce and/or barb outside in karith (I’ve done it sometimes), but extremely super difficult, and fair to say improbably. With multiple jet campers outside, it become even more improbable (approaching virtually impossible).

Yes, jet camping can be much more of an issue on Karith than on atcs. But the thing about jet camping away from your base and the enemy base,that takes them away from both defence and attacking, so you can generally ignore them. If, however, humans manage to build outside, then that becomes a very difficult scenario, however the buildables are still easier to take out than the jet campers.

Something else to consider is how different game play makes problems/annoyances on various maps non-issues. For example, jet fuel and/or a flying alien can eliminate the issue of jet camping.

@DarkMicrobe

Atcs doesn’t have vents where aliens have to go out of their way to kill humans, not being able to use dragoons etc.

I never really considered the vents in Karith to be a big deal. Just get some poison, and flank at the right times.

Regarding parts of maps restricting/eliminating viability of certain classes in general, imo that adds to the strategy where some classes become more useful than others. The it is more about figuring out the right tool for the job rather than always throwing a sledgehammer along with the whole toolbox at the job.

[Campo]

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[Bluefire]

@dGr8LookinSparky

a flying alien

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAH
I like this idea! what about adding unllimited hummel’s spike and lamest gameplay on trem? Ho! I see someone coming to kill me! Fallback!! And destroy his base when he is rushing.!
srly , I learned something from NE, ( YES I DID) . Flying alien are bs.

[dGr8LookinSparky]

@Bluefire

I like this idea! what about adding unllimited hummel’s spike

That is not required for a flying alien

[Bluefire]

@dGr8LookinSparky

That is not required for a flying alien

This alien should at least have a nuclear grenade launcher!

[DevHC]

@DarkMicrobe

how to take everything someone says out of context

virtually nothing was taken out of context. if u intended to mean something else (eg. the opposite), then u failed the communications class.

attack strawmans

u’re a weightless stick figure.

Aesthetics and tremulous, that’s a new one.

set higher-level requirements for Tremulous 1.4 by listing them.

@DevHC

sux that u can’t rant-whore against everything ?

Fucking read

@DarkMicrobe

you might sometimes have trouble clearing certain spots out. for instance jetcampers when you’re a rant. [that was: „tyrant sux against humans up high” explained, part 1.]
[…]
karith’s ele room where tyrants are essentially worthless if humans build there. [that was: „tyrant sux against humans up high” explained, part 2 — even more, that is.]
[…]
Regardless of whether this is balanced, it’s lame.

the only reasonable interpretation of this flow is the following:

@DarkMicrobe

[it’s very lame that the tyrant sux against humans up high, as demonstrated by 2 similar examples.]

@DarkMicrobe

this is exactly what im saying, i like rants not being viable on certain spots, not them being fucking useless.

what part of

@DevHC

[how tyrants r very useful even on Karith Station 2…]

did u fail to not deliberately_ignore ?

@DarkMicrobe

@DevHC

and in case u didn’t know, there is a map, called atcs, that has a large courtyard for jetcampers.

who can be pounced down and poisoned, can you do that on karith

yes. it is considerably more difficult, but is possible.

insane outside area where any competent human is immortal until rc goes down elsewhere?

ur point ? that there is yet another class of „immortality” issues besides turret-turtling ?

@DevHC

@DarkMicrobe

[atcs is superior because it is not as complicated.]

[if non-complexity makes superiority, then box maps would be of utmost superiority.]

dumbass argument and you know it

WRONG. my argument shows exactly that ur argument is dumbass.