Aliens and Humans trouble in Big Maps, and ideas to solve them

[Woodbury]

Continuing the discussion from Problems that haven't been addressed in EGTT category and Ideas to solve them:

@Woodbury

Big Maps

• Problem: Playing big ass maps is always fun, but they are the origin of certain unpleasant situations. For aliens, the fear of receiving a nuclear mass driver explosion on your dretchy head. And humans, the unavoidable feeling of being too exposed when traveling on foot in very big spaces.

• Idea 1: For aliens, every class should have the ability to camouflage, at different ranges. For example: dretches can be seen at X units of lenght, Basilisks at (3/2) times X units, marauders at 3X units, dragoons at 6X units and tyrants at 9X units. Why? Because human range is infinite, I recall playing a very big flat map where you had to pounce for and hour to get to human base, and humans can see aliens as dots, with the right aim you could hit dretches incredibly far, with ANY weapon, except flamer and luci. I think this idea would make big maps very playable for aliens. (I know New EDGE gave Basilisks the ability to camouflage if they stand still, but I’m suggesting a different method.)

• Idea 2: For humans, the idea from romdos to be able to use fireteams, adding the ability to know where they are at any moment, and to stick together, because human strenght is in numbers, if any given fireteam of 4 or more is together in X radius, some type of buff is applied. (more to be added, havent thought of what kind of buff)

@Woodbury

@Shuffle

@Woodbury

with the right precition you could hit dretches incredibly far, with ANY weapon, except flamer and luci

I understand what you mean about this, but only MD is 100% accurate over long distance. Las gun seems to have some kind of limit to its range (at least it did when I tried it on the map epic (which is probably the map you’re thinking of). It is impossible to be completely accurate at very long range with rifle, luci, pulse, flamer, (psaw), etc.

Some weapons have range problems and they should stay the same, with endless range. I’m just trying to replicate something like this by limiting human eyes on distance just for small aliens, shots could hit anyway with some luck (or aimbot).

@Woodbury

@Shuffle

@Woodbury

For humans, the idea from romdos to be able to use fireteams, adding the ability to know where they are at any moment, and to stick together, because human strenght is in numbers, if any given fireteam of 4 or more is together in X radius, some type of buff is applied. (more to be added, havent thought of what kind of buff)

Adding an extra bonus to having lots of your team seems a bit OP to me, especially in scrims. Maybe it could work for pubs, but perhaps make it a % of the team who have a weapon on them?

I left the buff unselected to see ideas about it, it may cause scrims to feel unbalanced, depending of what buff is applied, I have thought of many suggestions for this, but I’ll post it later,

@Woodbury

@Ckit

@Woodbury

Big Maps

This is not a gameplay issue it’s a mapping problem. The designer of these large open maps didn’t take the gameplay into account. We shouldn’t have to change the gameplay to conform to their bad mapping, we should just refuse to play their map. Interesting ideas though.

I think we should be more open minded to different playstyles. I’m aware this is not gameplay issue, but a map issue. I’m just trying to make the game more dynamic when talking about maps, not always playing ATCS like maps. (I like ATCS though)